[identity profile] glennagirl.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] section7mfu
We haven't had a poll lately and Friday seems a good day for it.  Please feel free to talk about your answers and other possible answers to the questions.  Especially the last one, I'm curious about that and how the two movie actors would have fared 50 years ago.[Poll #2035876]

Date: 2016-02-05 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrua7.livejournal.com
I was just thinking it had been a while since you did a poll and was going to suggest you do one. Great minds think alike! "D

In the question of IK returning to the USSR, in my stories I have him as a former military Intelligence agent -GRU and I have the KGB angry with him because he would not spy for them on UNCLE and the US as his orders from his former GRU superiors ordered him not to spy, as he belonged to UNCLE now. (unless he was recalled in a state of war was declared...given it was the Cold War.)

The GRU and KGB were historically vying for control, and when the pendulum swung in favor of the KGB, that's when they'd go after IK as they branded him a traitor...which led me to lots of possibilities and angsty stories.

I answered Emma Peel just for fun. She was really cool and never a damsel in distress as April was so often.

If Cavill and Hammer were in the TV show, I envisioned their portrays to be closer to the original characterizations, So I think they would work...as long as Napoleon wasn't an art thief, and Illya wasn't a psychopath with anger issues.
Edited Date: 2016-02-05 03:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-02-05 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurose8.livejournal.com
I'd guess Illya being in good standing with his governemet was important to UNCLE. mrua7's point that he might easily get caught up in a bureaucratic catfight is a good one, but not actually mentioned in canon.

Cavill and Hammer's roles seem to be blatant rip offs of modern tv. I think they would have brought much less to whatever roles they played.

Date: 2016-02-05 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrua7.livejournal.com
Actually nothing is mentioned in canon about Illya's status with UNCLE and the Kremlin...though I think it was said in one episode with the tainted wheat that he could be recalled home. Can't remember the name of the episode, but it's the one where we see a flashback to Illya in his military uniform.

Date: 2016-02-05 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurose8.livejournal.com
Neptune. Someone did point out he could have been undercover, but UNCLE is meant to be intergovernmental, after all.

Date: 2016-02-05 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrua7.livejournal.com
I don't think UNCLE would have accepted him as an agent without having fully vetted him, and I'm sure he was watched at first to make sure he wasn't being duplicitous. Waverly wanted an international team of agents but am sure he had to make sure he knew where their loyalties lay in the final analysis. I suppose an agent wouldn't be involved in an assignment that would involve their home country, just in case.

It's all rather complicated when you think about it, asking people to work for your multinational agency, be loyal, but still not be disloyal to their own government and home.'

Thanks for the name btw, I'm terrible at remembering them sometimes.
Edited Date: 2016-02-05 06:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-02-05 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-wretching.livejournal.com
Great questions!

As to the first: I don't like the idea. It seems like part of what is attractive to them, and to the viewer, is the dangerousness of it. Plus why ruin such a lovely little divertisment with something so crass as love?

Second question really seems to require knowledge of the workings of the KGB, which I do not possess, but I would think that they would take his experience as useful to them as soon as he convinced them (he could in a heartbeat--he's Illya) that he was all in and not a traitor.

I just don't know about the last one. It's hard to picture. I suspect it would not have had the staying power.



Date: 2016-02-06 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrua7.livejournal.com
Just to clarify, (not that your comment is directed to me) but I never saw Illya as a traitor, as he was following orders to serve UNCLE given him by the GRU, (the military branch of Soviet intelligence.) but in my stories I have him thought of as a traitor by the KGB, because he wouldn't spy for them.

Though he's loyal to his home, he swore an oath to UNCLE which he takes seriously, but the KGB, which is the Soviet secret police, thinks he shouldn't.

Very interesting and eye opening are the books written by Viktor Suvorov, an ex-Soviet spy. He was condemned to death by the Supreme Military Court in USSR for defecting and betraying his homeland. (apparently he's still alive but lives in hiding with his family)

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